From where do people think the money for Universal Healthcare will come?
MoltarRocks asked:
For those that favor a socialized healthcare system in this country, where will the money come from? Surely, some businesses favor this because they won’t have to pay the vast portion of health insurance premiums many employers do today. (Meaning those big, mean corporations will actually make MORE money)
For those that favor a socialized healthcare system in this country, where will the money come from? Surely, some businesses favor this because they won’t have to pay the vast portion of health insurance premiums many employers do today. (Meaning those big, mean corporations will actually make MORE money)
So, where does the money come from?
By the way, for folks who believe a government monopoly will drive down costs, it won’t. It’s not going to prevent doctors from being sued. That’s the hidden root problem with our system today - tort law!
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December 1st, 2009 at 4:19 am
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We the peons .
December 1st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
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The same place the billions of dollars for the Iraq war came from, your taxes.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
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I guess it will come from credit cards, which is where people are getting their healthcare money at the present time.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
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you said it from corporate taxes,,,,,, make the corps more competitive with my small business,,,,,
and reduce global domination funds a little (defense budget)
it is funny how the corps and elite have you people convinced it comes from the middle class… and that it would be harmful to your life….. propoganda….. and you defend the lies,,,,,
December 6th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
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They don’t think it through that far. They hear the word “free” and their eyes glaze over. If they want “free” healthcare, they can move to someplace like Canada where there is a 60% taxation rate.
December 9th, 2009 at 5:07 am
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taxes…..
I currently pay $10,000 - $12,000 a year in health care premiums. If my taxes increase $5000 a year, and my insurance premiums went away, I am all for it. It would be a savings to me of over $5000.
December 10th, 2009 at 1:06 am
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THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS!!!!
December 12th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
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You’ll pay it in taxes, but you wont pay individually to your insurance company anymore. It will cost you less when the thing gets going. There isn’t any hocus pocus to it, and nobody gets reamed. The standard arguments you hear against it is quality of care - but the truth is the quality has not kept up in the US as compared to the rest of the world. Of the top 28 industrialized (sic) nations, we rank 27th.
Read this about medical malpractice - it might surprise you;
December 15th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
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From magic, of course. That’s also where electricity comes from.
December 17th, 2009 at 12:57 am
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Taxpayers.
But it will never happen because the insurance and medical industry will lobby like madmen and they will win like they always do (Clinton couldn’t get it done).
December 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
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Our tax dollars,socialized health care is good for the poor that don’t have insurance that’s about it,I don’t care what the Europeans say it is shoddy coverage,I know someone in Europe that had brain cancer needed a surgery to survive and was told they could do 15 hipreplacements for the cost of his operation and he had no guarantees so they denied his surgery,I dont think we want that here.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 am
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Out of your pocket and everyone else’s, it’s a no-brainer man. It will be the same as paying for a Interstate, but it benefits people more then a Interstate can.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:58 pm
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People will have to pay their individual healthcare and the employers will be relieved of their payments for employee benefits.
December 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
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Ofcourse the Tax Payers.
December 26th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
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If we socialize Health Care it will come from taxes. They would have to raise taxes. Nothing is free. Universal Health care will not work. People will think it is good for a period of time. Look at Canada, people come here to get treatment.
I read an article several months back stating that they are actually starting to privatize up there. It’s illegal but the government doesn’t enforce because it works.
December 30th, 2009 at 2:22 am
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The Government is good at health care. Just look at Walter Reed………..lol
December 30th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
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I don’t think the cost is the problem, really. I think the concern should be quality of health care. If a doctor is restricted in his charges, or a doctor’s income is limited based on the cost of healthcare, will you get the best care?
What about research and development? Will there be enough money in the system for that? Will it be enough?
Honestly, I would pay more taxes for it, but I want to make sure we have the best care available.
January 1st, 2010 at 3:16 am
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That’s like asking where the general tax revenues come from.
If the general masses never see it in their paychecks, and don’t have to write out a check at the end of the year, they think they got off scott free.
Employers will simply have to add a few more clerks to pull the money out of everyone’s income and shuffle it to the government before the employees notice it.
Our democracy would be a lot more effective and efficient if we were invoiced and had to write out a check to pay the government every month. Methinks Congress persons would have to be a lot more financially responsible.
January 1st, 2010 at 9:26 am
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MORE TAXES BABY!!!!!!
Well, except on the poor, the illegals…you know, people who NEED universal health care!!!!!!!!!
January 1st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
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And I suppose you WOULDN’T sue if some incompetent doc left a scalpel in your stomach????
EDIT: The money will come from the taxpayers and the corporations. But the money for health care already comes from the taxpayers and the corporations. So what’s different, except that everyone will have the opportunity to see a doctor when they are sick, instead of just the rich.
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January 3rd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
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It is a matter of redistribution of funding. Currently, a large portion of our GNP goes towards defense and military spending; very little of it, proportionally, goes towards entitlement programs. It is also a matter of redistribution of wealth in the form of, say, more progressive taxes on the wealthiest 5% of Americans.
People who scoff at the idea of universal healthcare have a tendency to believe that middle Americans would be taxed into poverty if such a program were to be implemented. This is a popular misconception, rooted firmly in one’s ignorance of the fact that some European cultures have managed to balance universal healthcare with a thriving middle class.
On edit: it is childish to rate someone down simply because they do not agree with your politics.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:26 am
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In Australia we have medicare and it comes out of our tax’s some people still opt for private health coverage so the government gives them a tax rebate because they still pay the medicare levi but don’t use it.Everybody is entitled to medical care here and priorities are treated as that and non life saving surgery waits and sometimes for a very long time and no cosmetic surgery.This is a very good system as long as it isnt abused.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
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I think the AIG CEO Hank Goldberg’s salary is enough to cover the western Hemisphere.
Add a couple other insurance blood suckers and the medical for the whole planet would be covered.
Go big Red Go
January 9th, 2010 at 2:32 am
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The first thing we have to do is realize the size of the problem. With medicare and medicade, there is a great deal of the population already receiving healthcare at taxpayers expense. Then consider govenment grants. This is all money coming from the government for healthcare. How much more would it take to pay for the rest of us? Second, they need to streamline the system and put some rules into effect. Using companies such as HMO’s is a good idea. The govenment would only be responsible for paying premiums. Thus not needing another oversized government organization such as the IRS. I believe realisticly that it can be done with no more than the government pays now. Furthermore, standardized healthcare costs need to be established to put an end to insurance gouging that raises premiums.
Lawsuits are something this country has been needing to handle for some time now. Caps on lawsuits are a tricky situation. It saves the healthcare industry, but at what cost? They are seemingly relieved of any obligation to their patients. Holding individuals responsible for their neglegence is the answer here.
January 9th, 2010 at 11:29 am
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If you think for a minute that universal healthcare somehow lets ”business’ off the hook - think again.
The smaller businesses that currently don’t offer healthcare, will be mandated to do so. Hundreds of thousands of small businesses will be effected - a great many of them will close.
Big business will have taxes raised on their earnings - layoffs will result.
As in Europe, we will tax ourselves into servitude to the nanny state that provides for us.
I am the first to agree the healthcare system needs to be completely overhauled - so why wasn’t Bushs plan given 5 minutes thought before being dismissed out-of-hand?
It raised taxes on the ‘rich’ - something every card-carrying Dem lives for - and gives insurance to everyone…as usual hatred for Bush overshadows all reasonable thought .
January 10th, 2010 at 12:34 am
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It’ll come from the richest top 1% of course! (Which I believe is anyone over $250k/ yr) They already pay 1/3 of all income taxes, but that’s not enough!
In reality, Bush actually has a pretty good healthcare plan, the idea being that your employer get out of the health care business and gives you the increase in money to buy it yourself *tax free*. True portability. There are also too many regulations within many states that make it expensive as it is now. But think about it- does your employer pay for your car or house insurance? Why does it make sense that they pay your health insurance. We need to remove this obscure link between health insurance and employers.
January 10th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
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People who want universal coverage don’t even consider where the money will come from nor how much money is involved. It would take 4.5 times the amount of money spent on national defense to take on healthcare.
Already about 60% of the federal budget is spend on entitlements. Having the federal government manage a system as large as healthcare is a scary idea. Talk about a fubar. That would surely qualify.
January 11th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
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From the same place all fund come from….the taxpayer..
We, the taxpayer, are currently paying for a system that has no checks and balances. Who do you think pays the price for increased hospital costs due to not being paid by the patient…who do you think currently pays for the prescriptions of a person who can’t pay.
There are over 43 million Americans with no health insurance because they can’t afford to pay the premiums….who do you think currently pays for their medical care? We, the taxpayer.
Might as well put a program that is fair to all, where all can contribute some…instead of the current system where many are contributing nothing.
January 13th, 2010 at 3:29 am
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The same place that Mexico, a 3rd world country, gets the funds to provide free healthcare to all it’s citizens, by getting rid of for-profit insurance companies.