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		<title>By: :)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama discusses his health care plan here:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama discusses his health care plan here:</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a brother that lives in Canada. He has four badly damaged disks in his back.
He went to his family doctor last August about this problem.
Last fall his back became so painfull that he could only work part time. He could not stand up for a full shift so he was partially disabled and on pain medication.
His back continues to get worse.
Now he is in so much pain that he can&#039;t work at all. He is taking Dilaudid which is about the strongest narcotic that you can take. He is now fully disabled.
He still has not seen an orthopedic surgeon.
The wait to see an Orthopedic Surgeon in his province of Nova Scotia is TWO years.
That is not the wait for surgery, that is the wait for the initial consultation.
Is that the kind of health care you want?


I lived in Canada with socialized medicine for 37 years, ten of those years I worked in the health care system. In the last ten years I have lived in the U.S. and have worked in the same  Hospital. 
So I&#039;m not just someone with an opinion derived from the sum of other people&#039;s opinions. I have seen both systems work not in theoretical terms but in actual day to day experience.

Let me assure you that health care in America, even for the destitute, is better than health care in Canada. Canadian health care is equally poor for everyone. That is except for the wealthy, who come to the U.S. when they don&#039;t want to wait years for care.

Just wondering, if your Doctor told you that if you didn&#039;t get a heart bypass operation you would likely die, how long would you like to wait? Six months? a year?  In my hospital in Texas you would have it today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a brother that lives in Canada. He has four badly damaged disks in his back.<br />
He went to his family doctor last August about this problem.<br />
Last fall his back became so painfull that he could only work part time. He could not stand up for a full shift so he was partially disabled and on pain medication.<br />
His back continues to get worse.<br />
Now he is in so much pain that he can&#8217;t work at all. He is taking Dilaudid which is about the strongest narcotic that you can take. He is now fully disabled.<br />
He still has not seen an orthopedic surgeon.<br />
The wait to see an Orthopedic Surgeon in his province of Nova Scotia is TWO years.<br />
That is not the wait for surgery, that is the wait for the initial consultation.<br />
Is that the kind of health care you want?</p>
<p>I lived in Canada with socialized medicine for 37 years, ten of those years I worked in the health care system. In the last ten years I have lived in the U.S. and have worked in the same  Hospital.<br />
So I&#8217;m not just someone with an opinion derived from the sum of other people&#8217;s opinions. I have seen both systems work not in theoretical terms but in actual day to day experience.</p>
<p>Let me assure you that health care in America, even for the destitute, is better than health care in Canada. Canadian health care is equally poor for everyone. That is except for the wealthy, who come to the U.S. when they don&#8217;t want to wait years for care.</p>
<p>Just wondering, if your Doctor told you that if you didn&#8217;t get a heart bypass operation you would likely die, how long would you like to wait? Six months? a year?  In my hospital in Texas you would have it today!</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there answerer &#039;Monica Lewinsky&#039;, who made you the authority on the Clinton campaign?  I am not a supporter of Hillary&#039;s but it&#039;s very clear that you have no clue what you are talking about.  Have you even been to her website?  At least I decided why I didn&#039;t like each candidate on fact, and not your made up fiction.  I am especially passionate on the issue of healthcare being a state agent.

Hillary will not be forcing anyone to take anything.  If you read from her site she is simply opening up the federal congressional plan to all to buy it if they want to with no pre-ex.  This is good for those currently ill that plans will not cover due to a current health condition or for those to get a better plan than their employer currently offers.  You get a tax credit if you don&#039;t take it and you can keep what you have if you like it.  No forcing you to go on it, no taking money or fines.  Where did you get that made up crap?

Don&#039;t be such a dolt, do your research.  At least I know why I don&#039;t like Hillary and it has nothing to do with your falsehoods on her healthcare plan.

To answer the asker&#039;s question DO NOT ask on this forum.  You get too many made up answers, like &#039;Monica Lewinsky&#039;s&#039;.  Go to each candidate&#039;s official website and click on issues.  It will lay out a plan to let you know where each one stands.  Make up your own mind based on the FACTS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there answerer &#8216;Monica Lewinsky&#8217;, who made you the authority on the Clinton campaign?  I am not a supporter of Hillary&#8217;s but it&#8217;s very clear that you have no clue what you are talking about.  Have you even been to her website?  At least I decided why I didn&#8217;t like each candidate on fact, and not your made up fiction.  I am especially passionate on the issue of healthcare being a state agent.</p>
<p>Hillary will not be forcing anyone to take anything.  If you read from her site she is simply opening up the federal congressional plan to all to buy it if they want to with no pre-ex.  This is good for those currently ill that plans will not cover due to a current health condition or for those to get a better plan than their employer currently offers.  You get a tax credit if you don&#8217;t take it and you can keep what you have if you like it.  No forcing you to go on it, no taking money or fines.  Where did you get that made up crap?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be such a dolt, do your research.  At least I know why I don&#8217;t like Hillary and it has nothing to do with your falsehoods on her healthcare plan.</p>
<p>To answer the asker&#8217;s question DO NOT ask on this forum.  You get too many made up answers, like &#8216;Monica Lewinsky&#8217;s&#8217;.  Go to each candidate&#8217;s official website and click on issues.  It will lay out a plan to let you know where each one stands.  Make up your own mind based on the FACTS!</p>
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		<title>By: tnfarmgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tnfarmgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realize that politicians needed to offer health care plans- isn&#039;t that what we have Blue Cross Blue Shield, State Farm, Farmers and all those other privately owned companies for. 
Why would the government be involved in health care  at all ( (unless we are a socialist nation)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize that politicians needed to offer health care plans- isn&#8217;t that what we have Blue Cross Blue Shield, State Farm, Farmers and all those other privately owned companies for.<br />
Why would the government be involved in health care  at all ( (unless we are a socialist nation)?</p>
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		<title>By: Just my opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just my opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah just what we need another government plan where everyone is forced to pay for health care or pay a fine or have our wages garnished.  No Thanks!  
Hillary had 8 years to pass Health Care and failed.  What has changed.
Obama wants to make it more affordable but is trusting Americans to buy it if they want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah just what we need another government plan where everyone is forced to pay for health care or pay a fine or have our wages garnished.  No Thanks!<br />
Hillary had 8 years to pass Health Care and failed.  What has changed.<br />
Obama wants to make it more affordable but is trusting Americans to buy it if they want it.</p>
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		<title>By: paper mage</title>
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		<dc:creator>paper mage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitt Romney&#039;s plan is similar, except for the part about the mandates and the government paying for it all.

Under the Romney plan, the government helps everyone find a plan that they can afford.  This has the added benefit of giving the insurance companies the incentive to be more competitive in their prices.

The plan also gives tax bonuses to people who set aside savings to pay for insurance.  It&#039;s like his other tax plan, where all personal savings, including annuities and interest on those savings, become 100% tax deductible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitt Romney&#8217;s plan is similar, except for the part about the mandates and the government paying for it all.</p>
<p>Under the Romney plan, the government helps everyone find a plan that they can afford.  This has the added benefit of giving the insurance companies the incentive to be more competitive in their prices.</p>
<p>The plan also gives tax bonuses to people who set aside savings to pay for insurance.  It&#8217;s like his other tax plan, where all personal savings, including annuities and interest on those savings, become 100% tax deductible.</p>
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		<title>By: Rossco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rossco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul:
  The problems with our healthcare system are not results of too little government intervention, but rather too much. Patients and doctors, rather than Big Government and Big Pharmaceutical, should be in charge of the American healthcare system. We also need to rethink the whole system of HMOs and managed care, which has stripped doctors of the freedom to collectively negotiate with insurance companies to drive down the cost of medical care. Additionally, I would res-structure the tax code to allow individual Americans to deduct all medical expenses, as employers can. I would also eliminate federal regulations that discourage small businesses from providing coverage, and oppose further expansion of the FDA and other supra-national regulating bodies that impose artificial barriers and costs in healthcare. The bottom line is simple: we need to lessen government involvement in the healthcare industry and return control of healthcare dollars and decisions to the individual</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul:<br />
  The problems with our healthcare system are not results of too little government intervention, but rather too much. Patients and doctors, rather than Big Government and Big Pharmaceutical, should be in charge of the American healthcare system. We also need to rethink the whole system of HMOs and managed care, which has stripped doctors of the freedom to collectively negotiate with insurance companies to drive down the cost of medical care. Additionally, I would res-structure the tax code to allow individual Americans to deduct all medical expenses, as employers can. I would also eliminate federal regulations that discourage small businesses from providing coverage, and oppose further expansion of the FDA and other supra-national regulating bodies that impose artificial barriers and costs in healthcare. The bottom line is simple: we need to lessen government involvement in the healthcare industry and return control of healthcare dollars and decisions to the individual</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hilary&#039;s plan is unreasonable, and she should try living pay check to pay check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hilary&#8217;s plan is unreasonable, and she should try living pay check to pay check.</p>
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		<title>By: yifearnone</title>
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		<dc:creator>yifearnone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her health care plan is just a pot of gold for her to borrow out of like social security , because it has been borrowed out and she knows it because her hubby has a few IOUs in it already from his term. She knows she needs a new pot of gold for her term! Face it, they all just want the controle of our money and it has nothing to do with us! Its just buisness, thats what Rich people know best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her health care plan is just a pot of gold for her to borrow out of like social security , because it has been borrowed out and she knows it because her hubby has a few IOUs in it already from his term. She knows she needs a new pot of gold for her term! Face it, they all just want the controle of our money and it has nothing to do with us! Its just buisness, thats what Rich people know best!</p>
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		<title>By: Beyounce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beyounce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She doesn&#039;t have a plan.
She has a mouth trying to get in the big house.
She is for herself and continuing to be in Washington.

That&#039;s it in a nut shell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She doesn&#8217;t have a plan.<br />
She has a mouth trying to get in the big house.<br />
She is for herself and continuing to be in Washington.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it in a nut shell.</p>
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